Re: Bending square tubing with a tubing roller ???? See montage plan (Fig. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/shop-too diy-5.html. Couple of update pics. 15. by Oldsarge Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:46 am, Post Or build your own! How well does it work? Terms of Service. Have a little bit of an update. Also the fit of this assembly is just a few thousands less then the span of the Aluminum plates so there will be no side to side deflection. Got what I call the saddle assembly for the pressure roller finished as far as I can till I get more parts. (While youre at it, findor plan to cut from the first board, if its large enoughanother section measuring 3/4-inch X 1 1/2-inch X 12 inches which will become the arm of the turning handle.). drawing. by cbassjr Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:29 pm, Post Still need to get the Acme threaded shaft turned up. Eccentric block (BTD 125 - 09.00.000). Canadian Subscribers International Subscribers, Canadian subscriptions: 1 year (includes postage & GST). Start by locating a good piece of 3/4 seasoned oak thats at least 5 wide and 30 in length. The first car I built, the tubing was hauled from CC, Tx to the Rio Grande valley for bending and it turned out looking about like exhaust tube bending. Post Going to get more parts machined up tonight. What kind of bending are you looking to do? Pivoting arm box L3x3x0.5x2.275 (BTD 125 - 02.00.200). Also need the 1 1/2 shafts for the dies now. If youve looked into building a backyard greenhouse, you know that one of the tools required to build the little sun shed is a tubing roller. Step 2:Cut two 2.275 long pieces of 3x3 L profile. Note: If there are any parts you want to see please contact us or get the detailed plans in PDF formate here. I can't say it's not on here, but I've looked (before asking, above) and have yet to find it. The entire bender was made from 4-5 pieces of scrap and was manually operated; I will draw, scan and post a sketch of the bender if anyone wants to make one, http://www.wediditforlove.com/texasdragster.html, Niagara Canada. That's why we want you to save money and trees by subscribing through our earth-friendly automatic renewal savings plan. The completed homemade tubing roller looks like this. Tilt the saw blade at a 45 angle, then set your fence 1 1/2 inches from its near side. If you want a bench top bender then this is ideal. The plans for this bender are here and they are recommended for the build. Align them as shown on the next picture to get a small box. If not, go here, this is where I found it. Complete the welds observing the welding plan. (This happens, of course, because the driver is positioned close enough to the idlers to force the conduit to bow. Step 1:Place the Fixed arm assy (1) on a flat working surface and position the Spacer (2) concentric to the last hole as shown on the next picture. Tack weld them in place and complete the welds. Lots of info on the web on benders and diesBob. HNUT 0.8750-9-D-S. 12. I'm having a machine shop turn the 1 1/2" Acme shaft for the jack screw for the pressure roller for me. X .050" wall frame rail tubing and 1.625" O.D. You can bend square tubing on this bender. Sharpe 3 Stage Air Filter & Drying System, Water Tables, Ventilation, Air Handling, Fab Tables, Grind Stations, Material Storage & Handling. If you want to put this bender on a stand then you'll be glad to know there is a simple and detailed tutorial onhow to build it. You finished assembling the tubing bender! This first picture is of the roll cage and the bending required, but only tack welded. get the detailed plans in PDF formate here. X .140" wall. Will post up pics asap. If you want a bench top bender then this is ideal. Mount the block using Quick-release pin (14). 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You can then produce just about any kind of arc even those required for large parabolic mirror frames!. Man using the device to bend a length of tubing. Step 6:Use the pin (11) for setting the bending angle. The bender is the cheap part of tube bending. There are a few things about square tubing rolling. DIY Home Biodiesel Production: Make Your Own Fuel. Thank you very kindly. Will post more pics when I have a few more parts machined. by acourtjester Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:45 pm, Post what are you going to use to drive it? Also left the side plates long so I can cut to length and radius the ends to match the radius of the 4" dia roller. It's a hand tool and it's fairly easy to fabricate and assemble. Check into SWAG Tools, he sells a die for square/flat tubing that fit the harbor freight tubing roller. The lathes I have access to don't have a big enough thru bore on the spindle . The bending radius will be the radius of the pin plus half the size of the square tube. Next, cut the plank in half and glue the two sections together so thatwhen it driesyoull have a single piece of wood about 1 1/2 inches thick from which youll cut three 5 X 5 pulley blanks. I purchased a 3rd die and follower, but now I have a use for a few more sizes. Self-reliance, simplicity and innovation are 'ideals,' I suppose. Use this clearance for the fillet weld. 1. At MOTHER EARTH NEWS for 50 years and counting, we are dedicated to conserving our planet's natural resources while helping you conserve your financial resources. 5. Align the box over it according to montage plan (Fig. I saw some show on TV and they were making trumpets. Luckely it was oversized at about 4.100 dia so it more then cleaned up at 4.000. I was able to get the ACME shaft machined by a member on OFN. Plus he'll describe the bender in good detail. It's not a big deal really to me. I wasn't sure of some of the dimensions and this will give me something to work off of. PM me. maybe if more kids got involved in projects we'd have less kids living in projects:flipoff2: I have a couple of dies machined for it now too. Use two Quick-release pins to ensure the alignment of the holes. Also the reason for the large diameter Acme rod, it's good and robust size will minimize any deflection. I used a live center and had the material securely chucked in a 4 jaw chuck. 1.2) and tack weld in place. 1. This is a bell gate I did with 2" square tube. On several occasions MOTHER EARTH NEWS shop crew has felt a sore need for one of the handy implements so finally they just up and built their own North Carolina copy, which fills the bill perfectly! The tool works like this: The bender itself is simply a pair of crosseseach made of two 18-inch long 2 X 4sthat sandwich a set of three grooved pulleys and a pair of support blocks. Privacy Policy. I need the Acme threaded rod and tapered bearing before I can drill and bore for the mounting of the acme rod. Has anyone made and used one of these? Ideals aint really something you can just borrow, I got my own set of ideals from how I was raised, but they cant be your ideals. i have a lathe thats got a good size pass though. I found this diagram in another old HAMB post. Complete both square welds according to the welding plan (Fig. L profile L3x3x0.5x3.275 (12 in). (1) Quick-release pin 1 X 3.75. All the tubing was filled with water and frozen before bending so it wouldn't collapse. It was set up on a steel welding table with a piece of 14" pipe about 4" long mounted on an axle vertical to the table so that the tubing could be secured to the 14" pipe and the 14" pipe rotated in order to cause the tubing to bend. by acourtjester Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:19 am, Post After that is finished and I get it back I can finish the pressure roller saddle assembly and it for the most done. ), This little gadget cant be beat for bending the support ribs on our shoestring greenhouse. Machined the second set of rollers that will be the Outboard set of dies. 78 SII very healthy 327,th-350,np205,35''boggers. But I'll bet I clicked on your link and it got mixed in. Step 4:Position the second Fixed arm over the box. See section view and dimensioning on drawing. your Facebook account, or anywhere that someone would find this page valuable. 2. ), The only tools youll need in order to make this inexpensive device are a drill with an assortment of bits, a couple of wrenches, and a table saw with adjustable fence and blade height. Since there will be nothing but down force on the plates, I mounted them underneath the top plate with fasteners and precision dowell pins. summer is here, plant a tree. Copyright 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. 2.2) and tack weld in place. Here it is basically put together. Now such a deviceif purchasedcould cost you several hundreds of dollars, because its normally a motor-driven professionals only machine. Our expert outlines processing used cooking oil in a small DIY plant. 3.1 Bench top tube bending montage plan. 10. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Mild steel square bar 212 X 3 (3.5 in). (WARNING: During all of the foregoing sawing procedures, be extremely careful remember, your fingers will be very close to the area being cut! Even when making your own bender it is often easer and cheaper with time spent considered to purchase the dies and followers. Some in process pics of machining these would be cool too. Actually I always used 1" IPS SA-106-B steel pipe for roll bar and axle, it being 1.66" O.D. What approximate radius to the bends? When the straight conduit is placed between the driver and the left idler, and the crank is turned, the tubing moves along until it contacts the right idler, which forces the pipe to bend slightly and to continue to bend till the entire section is arced. I am starting to build a lot of custom gates and naturally everyone wants the curved top gates. a tree is an investment in our planet, help it out. I'm tired of this eating into my profit on the gates. When I buy one it will be a cnc lathe, and thats too pricy for me right now. Spacer (BTD 125 - 08.00.000). The last 2 I had bent were really warped almost 10" out of square. Had to make a custom 1.750 full radius tool bit to machine these. 2. The pressure saddle will have these Delrin, what I call slide guides mounted to the sides, these will slide against the main Aluminum plates instead of having steel against Aluminum causing wear on the Aluminum plates. Hi all I am New here and and might ask some dumb questions but here it goes. ), Trim the rest of the wooden components from a 76 length of 2 X 4, round the ends of the oak handle arm, and cut half-lap joints in the center of your crosses then assemble the roller. Just not ready to buy a machine yet. Attach the C channels (5) to the Fixed arm using the bolts (4), Washers Laser Pointers, Pen Markers, Remote Controls, Drawing Tablets, etc. What size tubing are you going to bend?. 2. by urbnsr Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:01 pm, Post 16. (NOTE: The critical measurements are [1] the 8-inch center-to-center distance between the two idler pulleys, and [2] the 4 1/2-inch span from the axis of the drive wheel to the midpoint of that 8-inch centerline. Step 1: Cut two 3x30 work pieces of 0.5 thick mild steel sheet and drill the holes according to drawing BTBD125 - 02.00.100. Anyway I'm looking at a roller at harbor freight which is similar to the one that is posted on this site. Drill the holes according to the 17. Drill the holes according to the Most store-bought tube-shapers run on electricity. Tool bit is just a piece of 1018 CR steel. Two of the wheels (those that are in line along the same crosspiece) serve as idlers and the third pulley (positioned at one end of the other crosspiece) is the driver. 1.1). Attach the C channels (5) to the Fixed arm using the bolts (4), Washers Spacer 7/8 screw size, L=3.275. Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kerry, Nov 3, 2007. I use usually 2" 14 gauge square tubing and am wondering if anyone has used one of these to bend square tubing and if so what size dies should i use for the 2". Come join the discussion about trail reports, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, fabrication, drivetrain, and more! #3 and #6 rollers are the same, those can go either inboard or outboard. Guiding wheel (BTD 125 - 05.00.000). 86 4runner 7MGE bobed, exo, SAS on 38s, 5.29, fully locked with duals/4.7 and 30spl longs. Instead of side mounting them and relying on the strength of the fasteners to hold the load. The price of nice tubing benders scares me so I've been looking at options. 4. To prevent collapsing and kinking the "egg" was welded to a 20' piece of 1/4" pipe and the "egg" inserted inside the tubing to the point where the bending occurs and the 1/4" pipe secured so the "egg" would remain where located while the tubing slides over it during bending. I wanted the bends to be about 7" inside bend radius so I started thinking about bending it around a piece of 14 " pipe, but I knew it needed something to prevent it from collapsing/kinking. what price are you at now? X .125" wall roll bar and front axle tubing. If you go to the link I posted above, he gives a good explaination of how it works. You'll find tips for slashing heating bills, growing fresh, natural produce at home, and more. (3) and Nuts (6). I've found other designs, but not one as nice as this one. Homemade biodiesel helps you speed past the gas station toward fuel independence. 2.1). 2. You can also make jigs our of wood or steel and use some brute force -- depending on what thickness of tubing you're bending. When the incision is complete around the entire circumference, turn the wooden circle over and cut the opposite side of the groove. I'm sure if you go back in the old post you can fine the DXF for the roller above. A roller is used to shape lengths of standard conduit or electrical metallic tubing (EMT) into arcs (rather than merely to form a corner, as is the case with the far more common tube bender) for use in framing, toolmaking, and other kinds of fabrication. Pivoting arm assy (BTD 125 - 02.00.000). Raise the blade 1 inch from the table (measured along the toothed disks side), and pass the edge of the wheels through it. that was my link, you link steeler. There is some detail machining I want to do but it's not actually necessary for funtion. by tnbndr Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:16 am, Post Our version, though, uses a hand crank that not only feeds the conduit through swiftly and easily, but costs nothing to operate. It may not have been rape, but it was a vigorous copulation. L profile L3x3x0.5x3.275 (BTD 125 - 01.00.200). by urbnsr Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:05 am, Return to CNC Plasma Cutters General Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. IMHO if you are doing enough Irolling I would invest in a decent powered roller. It's close to being finished up though. 2. Step 2:Cut two 20 long pieces of 1.5x3 C channel. This of course would never work trying to machine a steel die. The car assembly requires bending all four frame members, front axle, roll bar and brace and the steering box mounting bracket. If this Delrin holds up without cracking, cool, there easy to make. Fixed arm assy (BTBD125 - 01.00.000). I hate to just say Google it but there are many die and bender makers and it would be worth looking at some of the various methods used. 4. You may also use the Bill Me option and pay $19.95 for 6 issues. All times are GMT-6. The only, I guess some might consider bad thing is that some of the rollers are inboard and outboard location spicific. Material was out of round so a 4 jaw was the way to go. http://www.metalgeek.com/archives/2005/05/01/000047.php, http://www.vansantent.com/tube_bendiFQienAodJS6APw, http://www.eta.com/index.php?option=FQubnAod1nx7Qg, http://www.zianet.com/jworman/shoptips.html, If this is your first visit, be sure to No, the mandrel (egg) is stationary and the tube slides over it. Step 5:Thread the handle tube through the holes of the box, leaving a 0.25 clearance between the L profile and end of the tube. Step 4:Position the second Pivoting arm over the box. I adapted the Harbor Freight pipe threader motor to the setup, and rolling tube is a matter of squeezing the trigger! Align the box over it according to montage plan (Fig. check out the. C channel 3x1.5x20 (BTD 125 - 03.00.000). To do so, set your saw fence 5 inches from the blade andbeginning with a shallow cut and working progressively deeperpass each blank through the saw, rotating the wood slightly at every pass, until the disks are perfectly round. Machine according to dimensions on drawing BTBD125 - 04.00.000. Bending square tubing with a tubing roller ???? If you want to put this bender on a stand then you'll be glad to know there is a simple and detailed tutorial on. by cbassjr Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:08 am, Post if you don't have space or time to plant one sponsor some one else to plant one for you. The saddle assembly and slide guides were left long to figure out the best length once the threaded rod was bolted up. haaaa!!! Step 1:Cut two 3x30 work pieces of 0.5 thick mild steel sheet. Quick-release pin 3.75'' tall. Possibility to increase pipe size up to 1 12 - Bending angle 180 degrees. Still want to anodize it too. Mild steel sheet 0.5 thickness (360 in2). Complete both square welds according to the welding plan (Fig. I've got my little machinist buddy currently working on building me a 1" and 1.5" square die and follower as I type this. Could you use ice instead of the steel egg? Easy set up for different bending angles. Use at least one of the Quick-release pins and a bolt to ensure the alignment of the holes. The die and guiding wheel must be removed for bending square tubing. So I had to have a shop turn a 1-14 fine thread on one end, and a 1 1/4 hex on the other end for me. Still need to get motor, sprockets & chain and either build a frame or mount it to an existing bench. This tubing bender bends 1.25 inch DOM or less. For bigger bending radius a bushing can be used in place of the die. Step 4:Cut a 2.5 piece of 10 round bar. The deep south of the far north, http://www.pro-tools.com/pdf/hmp-200-new.pdf, Duluth, MN (Hey, Al.where's that global warming, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Ok I'll fess up it's not the same or on here. 3. Whoops! I got the pressure roller die machined up. Drill the 1 holes according to drawing BTBD125 - 01.00.100 or as shown below: Step 2:Cut two 3.275 long pieces of 3x3 L profile according to drawing BTBD125 - 01.00.200. Step 3:Place Fixed arm on a flat working surface. There are traditional benders you can build, and also roller-type benders. Should get it back this week. I have one on my Christmas list. CAPTAINCNC was kind enough to machine it for me. Submit Your Own Project or Join The Conversations! The bender makers sell just the dies and followers. The machining there still is in the future design stages. See section view and dimensioning on drawing. 6. Every shop I have called or sent an e mail to get a quote from won't do this easy job cause it's too small or they quote it so high it's not worth it. by urbnsr Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:23 am, Post Step 3:Place Pivoting arm on a flat working surface. Thread the 0.875 bolts (4) through the Washers (3) and holes in the fixed arm. With some of the quotes I got I would rather just go buy a lathe with a big enough thru spindle bore and just do it myself. Fig. You can use the same method to form the grooves in the pulleys. Slick shit man really slick. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, 3 roll bender - diy - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum, http://www.offroadfabnet.com/forums/ead.php?t=2887, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The ones marked #1, 2, 3, are the inboard set of rollers and #4, 5, 6, are the out board set. Is this some recent/current correspondence? Drill the 1.5 holes for the handle tube observing the drawing BTBD125 - 02.00.200. Position the last outer hole of the Pivoting arm (12) concentric to the outer hole of the Fixed arm (1) and Die (13). I've been doing searches on manual benders and rolling benders and I thought that was one I found. Send him an email, I haven't talked to him in a year or so, but when I was he had lots to say about the racing scene back in the day. I solved the collapse/kinking problem by machining a solid steel, egg shaped object that would barely fit inside the frame or roll bar and axle tubing. For general topics and questions that do not fit into any of the other categories or forums. I posted that drawing here about a yr ago. JD2 is the best for the money. You should be able to click on the thumbnail for a large version and print it out. why does it need to be turned down? How does the egg shaped object follow the curve of the bend? The bender is 295 and the dies are about 300 bux per die but it is a nice piece. Lock with Quick- release pin (14) and mount the Guiding wheel (16) using the short Quick-release pin (17). This page was generated at 10:22 AM. Just did a straight plunge cut and had to move .010 each way after the center was cut out and kiss it with some 400 sand paper and its smooth. A forum community dedicated to custom off-road vehicle owners and enthusiasts. ). Air Dryers, Air Filters, Air Compressors, Etc.