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Length : 68 (2.04m) thanks wade. I have used the evergreen Poseidon rod slow jerker 603-4 and now im using the hearty rise slow Jig III power 1 and 2 and as much as i love the action on the evergreen rod catching big Dog tooth tuna and 40 lb AJs on the Hearty rise rod is absolutely thrilling. There should be a balance of speed and power in the reel, but when it comes to SPJ where one-crank action is the key factor, I dont think you want to put low gear ahead of high gear just because its tiring. it is a very strong bond and strong to withstand the str My friend just bought this reel . I use ASS hooks mainly for my slow jigging application. Japan is a super competitive market for a new comer and this rod is just as expensive as other Class A rods. OJ1500 spec says, 300m of PE2.0, 200m of PE3.0. Thanks Yes, Ocean Freaks is a Japanese brand, led by a SPJ expert who used to be a field tester for Deepliner. You put your rod-side foot on the railing of the boat, put your rod-side elbow on the knee, point the rod down with the rod butt in your armpit, and retrieve. Xesta is Class B. I like the rods. And in your situation, 1500 should probably be sufficient. Its always nice to see you at comments. coz they are custom to suit the local needs & design. With free-drifting, you are really leaving it all up to the ocean condition. Line: Shimano EX8 PE2.5 600meters Slow Jerker flexes more, and springs back more. I would firstly like to thank you for this amazing website, before this page i had many questions and very little knowledge about slow jigging. When you are retrieving back to the surface, have you tried this? You need more lifting actions to keep your jig as close to you as possible. Major Craft rod isnt really a SPJ rod. But if you are looking for reputation, there you go, its nice.. But I dont know a Mania Fellows would have helped your situation. These suggestions are based on my assumptions about your situations. I am looking to get a Evergreen Poseidon Long Fall PLFJ 710 M-3. Accurate is not a Japanese brand. They are just pumping the rod, in which the jig is just slowly being pulled up. Or both. I came across the new ocea jigger f custom reel wanted to know your thoughts on that one. Thanks for your input I greatly appreciate the rapid response. P.S: I currently own Deepliner, Ocea Jigger Infinity rods all in their heaviest rating to take heavy jigs. Hi Totos..how about OJ 1501HG pair with Horizon SL? i currently have Jigging World Ghost Hunter 150. http://www.anglers-secrets.com/slow-pitch-jigging-on-a-free-drifting-boat/. I am very new to slow pitch jigging and would like to know your opinions on a setup that im thinking of getting (based on availability). My hands have painful blister after that. Hello Totos, The reel should be selected for your depth and your jig weight range mainly. 15003000. This way of SPJ opens up so many new methods such as high pitch with out even reeling the jig. I dont hear much bad things about SOM product quality here, but if you want to replace OJ2000NRHG with L30Pw because its tiring, I dont think it would make much difference. Thanks. Own Weight : 139gm But I still recommend 2000 because 2000 is never too big a reel to handle and its got the power and speed in tougher or deeper situations. Its made of the finest materials and parts. But I do think its important to have the no-tension fall of the spinning tackles in Tenya game. I absolutely love that I found your site and have learnt so much from your articles about slow pitch jigging. 100g at approx. Interesting review on Tailwalk. Hi Tom. Also firm blanks because it is designed to target deep waters. Rborkowskijr I think this was lost in translation. Hi Totos, High Modulus Carbon Blank, light and sensitive. It is my pleasure. Ever since that trip, I know my physical limits, 450 grams is OK, but 600 grams is physically very challenging to fish for hours. we have lots of lure & jigs from all the top japanese brands in colors that differs from the catalogue, that doesnt mean that they are fakes. The spinning reel doesnt give any tension to the free-spool falling, but the overhead does. Explore shallower waters. I fish in a free drifting kayak from 30m-50m deep waters here in the Philippines. And you have probably tried the shallow waters and didnt find much. Olivier. If the water is light, Power 3 rod can do 400g. Ive seen Skylla in a fishing event, but never used it in the field. Recommended Line : PE2.0 FAQ: How should I match the rod to the jig? ?m of PE2.0, 400m of PE3.0. That wide range of the jig weight comes from how the longfall game is done. Backing up will help you stay close to the jig, even though you have to constantly control the motor. Thank you very for creating this website. Excellent models. Easy to handle jigs approx. hi totos Its nice. You can send me an email and tell me what brands are available in your area for SPJ rods. Could you please tell us which Shimano rod you used? Very smooth and responsive. Good luck to you for that detective work. It depends on what is available in your area. It would be good if you could provide your opinion/experience on this rod. Hi Totos, thank you for your reply I really appreciate your feedback. Hello, it is almost 2019 now. It has been a while since I posted any comments here. I shall follow your insights religiously. i am from U.S. Long fall doesnt expect the rod to kick up the jig. Will KIV for now unless i can get it really cheap just for fun. Thanks, Hi Nasser. This rod is new and has no reviews. If you can track one these reels down here they are wort My Review for this reel. Hi Cris. we are the distributor for Evergeen in S.E Asia. Their series seems very light and does not cover heavy jig weights above 400g. Great site. what a waste. The power of the crank is stronger. Try to stay more vertical. And I am not sure if the reel SOM L120N which is much heavier than Ocea Jigger 2000 NRHG is making it better or worse for fatigue using heavy jigs. Totos I think hes asking is it possible to get a good setup for under 1000$. To confirm my experience, I asked another angler to test them side by side and they have the same conclusion as me. Of course I move it sometimes only to give it the chance to be seen by the fishes. Thank you very much for your message. until now it very smooth. I actually spent a lot of time looking for an overhead rod for deep squid eging. Hi SPJ. Did I waste my money? Im from Indonesia, java island, and most of the situation here is shallower water but with strong current, wind, and sometimes it is fast changing situation underneath. Sometimes I help people import from Japan but private import of one-piece 2-meter rods is not cheap. Good luck. I try to find the Kohga rod. In a game of fishing, good detectives always improve fast and much. Carbon Content : 99%, Xesta Slow Emotion Rod B684 For Slow Pitch Jerk I was not being personal about the color. I would like to share my experience with Tailwalk Slow Bump Tz rod that I happened to try it on a offshore trip side by side with my Deepliner rods and Shimano flagship rods. Power 4 also. maybe my question is a little bit out off topic, but I would like to known if an Evergreen Long Fall power 1 could be a good rod for Tenya fishing with tenya lures of about 100-200 g. In other words, the tip is enough flexible? i am looking for slow pitch rod. I tried my longfall jerker 3. What a surprise indeed. It was good. Infinity Motive 4 and Infinity Motive 5 rated rods. Havent heard any feedback from the field yet, this is definitely going to be a top notch product. In my categorization, Class A is the top-notch, but Class B is still very sufficient and recommended. Leader: Shimano Ocea FC 40 -50 lb (8m Long) It means theres little chance to get it new or used for cheap price. Your page is very informative and answers majority of question a beginner is seeking. Carbon Content : 99%, Xesta Slow Emotion Rod B685 For Slow Pitch Jerk Actually I found that I have had more bites when the tanya is resting on the seabed instead of moving it. B685 is Power 5 rod, Slow Jerker 603-5 equivalent. You may look into this a little more. thank you Yea, sure, it should nice I can only say. When the line is not tensioned by your rod actions, you are supposed to not reel and let the jig fall. I hear a mix bag of good and bad things about it. I use it for saltwater fishing. Section : One (Kohga also has Tenya series but they are all spinning). I will let you know how it goes once I get them. The reel can be matched up with any rod model if that matches. Also which size would be better for either of those rods the 1500HG or 2000HG. And Im still not sure, but ASS seems to be going out of business. Hi Totos, Also i found the The Hearty Rise Setinkba III jig has an outstanding strike ration on the way down. So lets see how it goes. Get a OJ2000NR-HG I suggest power 4 rod, to be safe. So what your opinion about a rod Evergreen Poseidon slow jerker 603-4 with a reel Oj2001NR-HG? I do kayak fishing. Recently I notice a product in the Internet known as Skylla by Ocean Freaks. Very smooth. currently i noticed some PSLJ product come with red color. The difference from Slow Jerker is very slight. In the heavy water situation, you need a power in your reel. I saw your post on SFC Spunky 300 grams and wonder if Jig design could be the answer to the water resistance I am facing in each upstroke. No its a good question. Semi-long blanks with butt-joint 2 piece. The main reason is that they want to perform the natural falling actions. i read all the posts and i think i came up with the set i want to have for slow pitch between 50-120 meters bottom fish Grouper, Striper, Dentex etc, But its really difficult to answer becaus Field test a new soft jump frog lure if video do not open or play, use this link : https://youtu.be/thGJBvBpd3g Testing a new j Street Fishing Testing Lure Action if video do not open or play, use this link : https://youtu.be/UD4MUoi8w8s Testing a Video tutorial about making Lures from thailand google image source. A high-pitch rod would help you move the jig more in the deep. How would you rate the Xesta Slow Emotion Rod ? Its all hearsay. I was given the opportunity to try this reel . Most of the jigging (80%) will be done around 80 m using 200-300 gm jigs but occasionally we go deeper to 130-150 m and use 400-500 gm jigs. No, Ive never heard of it in Japan. b. Ocea Jigger Infinity B636 B653; You have explored your fishing grounds in 100m 150m of waters by using other methods. Jig Weight : 80 350gm It would be good if you find some people to share the shipping. i have a evergreen rod PSLJ with dark blue color. Appreciate your advice or anyone advice who have used a Deepliner Mania Fellows rod. If so, they usually have excellents blanks !! Im happy that my website helped you start SPJ. And the rest of the rod has a good power reserve in order to lift 6-10 kg weighty fishes ? More than USD100 by FedEx Economy, but it can ship 2 or 3 rods. Hi AFS. A little softer than Slow Jerker, I think. I am concerned with the action of Deepliner Mania Fellows as the rod is rather short although some models can take more than 1kg weight jigs. Im planning to buy a new rod. If you are free-drifting, its probably good shallow waters under 70 meters. But Motive may be a little too long to handle on kayak. FG knot is a bundle of most frequently used by the caster in the whole world. Anyway, improving your drift will make you more productive than improving your tackles or actions. What it wants is to let the jig fall for as long as possible in each action. I dont know if you already do this or if it helps you at all, but I would use OJ2000NRHG in that situation. Hi Tom. Sad that such brand is going out of business. Captain Higashimura of Deepliner uses Mania Fellows for giant groupers in the deep, Logical for smaller and less active fish like blackthroat perch at 200m+. Recommended Line : PE2.0 ), be a good detective, and keep your mind open and flexible. I am not sure if its true. For me, I only reel in when the line is tensioned. What is your main depth range? Anyway, I think you need more power reel when you fish in the deep. 50m depth. Jig Weight : 60 180gm Reel: SOM L120N I dont think it is made by Evergreen in Japan, at least. Anyway color is a personal thing. I havent tried the setup yet and although I have been studying and watching thousands of hours of videos I still have not put it to practice. Next I would like to ask your opinion on SOM L30 S2T reel Low Gear. Start with PE2.0 with 150g to 300g jig weight. Of course its good. I was thinking of a PLFJ 710H-5 on an Ocea Jigger 1500H or a SOM L30Hi. So informative. Ive tried in the field once. The rods seems nice. Or if there was any other rod you would recommend? I have Poseidon, Motive Infinity and Deepliner Rods but I wont choose a Motive for kayak fishing. Given the conditions you are fishing in, it seems to me like power 4 rod will be the most versatile model. Im looking at a rod rated from 90-350g and it seems a very wide range. Alberto. http://www.anglers-secrets.com/slow-pitch-jigging-on-a-free-drifting-boat/. 3. I would recommend OJ2001NR-HG if you fish deeper than that. But I cant help you much. In contrast more efforts were needed on the other rods. He is a lure designer and studied slow pitch jigging with Sato Sensei. This site is becoming the standard for information and appreciate the hard work. Carbon Content : 99%. The weather in my area is still to cold to SPJ unless for cod which is far from my reach in a kayak. Ciao nAlberto. I dont know how you fish and what the conditions are, but what part of jigging all day is tiring? I recently ended up with a couple choices in rods as there are no class A rods available around me but I would like to know what you think about black hole rods? Could you please help? Plain old Infinity? Thank you very much for your compliments. Recommended Line : PE2.0 I have talked to a Shimano engineer and he told me all the ideas of developing this rod. But it looks too real for a fake model, like the logo, the tag, the reel seats, the guides. Due to all the factors to make the water heavy, some days are just not for slow pitch jigging. More to come in 2015. Hi SPJ. Sorry, these brands you are inquiring is not Japanese brands and I cant say much about them. Above is what I heard. The slow jigging rods come in quite a wide range. Yes, you are right about the rod model. If you just want to get the game going and see how it feels like, I would get a descent reel if I have to compromise on the rod. Thanks again. If you look at Evergreen website, you would think this show-off red color is not their style. Evergreen is a very stylish brand, and I think this red blanks is too ugly to be Evergreen. It sounds like your captain was trying to keep you vertical, but without the spanker sail, sometimes its very difficult. Of course, its not easy. Own Weight : 124gm Hi Wade. OJ2000 spec says, ?? The followings are my suggestions. Why u dont see in the catalogue, coz its a special order by Lure Haven. I cant say much about the products that are not available here in Japan. many thanks for your kind and quick answer. It designed to enjoy slow pitch jerk. hi, what class A rod you recommend for jigging in 70-150 m from a big free drifting party boat in Florida and Gulf of Mexico using 200-500 gm jigs? The weight of the reel is not much a problem compared to the fact that you will work less. OJ2000 has so much more power to help you play with a heavy jig and in heavy water. I have since bought a SOM L120 Narrow Spool for this purpose. The whole experience was a very challenging and tiring. Infinity Motive is an interesting rod. If you already have it, use it, of course. Please check out this post if you havent. Targeted fishing area would be Lucornia shoals/ Burma Banks at depths of up to 200-300m at max, 500-700gm jigs. Hi SPJ. They are only producing only one model yet. I just posted a related facebook post that I would like you to check out. I missed this one. Hi Abu Hatim. Therefore? I intended to use it for slow jigging and this time I am not sure if low gear is the right choice because I find it tiring to jig a 350-450 grams jig from 120-150 meters depth on a high gear Ocea Jigger NRHG2000 for a whole day.Whats your thoughts on this choice of reel ? I would say he is very confident with his products. I fish here in max 50-60m water on a drifting boat. 2. Hi Spiros. Hi SAR. Wondering if youve had any experience with Poseidons Long Fall Jerker lineup? I have two Evergreen Long Fall ( 5 and 6 power) and I used them with 200g tenya. But there are ways to make it easy and you would want to make sure you try them all before you give up on your trusted equipments. It sounds like you are understanding this work very well. Really nice line lay which is nice with the braid a have on my spod setup i use 0,13 braid Lightest of all the Horizon SL series rods. hi, this is Dave of Lure Haven The rod I am having custom built with titanium guides and custom grips and wrapping. i wish they can clarify the red PSLJ rod. Im interested in doing light kinmedai slow jigging in Minami Izu, and they are recommending 300-400 gram jigs on pe 1-1.5. Congratulations for the useful reference, and the effort of updating your page to keep to the new products in market. Bad stuff about the quality control was getting worse. Ill be jigging from a kayak in 100-250m for small dogtooth and yellowfin under 15kilos let me know. Hi Totto san, Your input has been most valuable. So they dont see the need for the reel torque. But depending on the ocean condition and the verticality, any rod may not allow slow pitch jigging. Just hoping to help you try different things in your effort to find the compatibility. A shorter rod is easier to manage on a kayak. The fact that there is no such thing in Japan, the way it is popping out in Southeast Asia, I would say it is very fishy. Im sure you have tried it already and maybe you didnt have much luck. Jig: Deepliner CX 450 and 550 grams, SFC Spunky 390grams. It sounds like a tough exercise indeed! But Slow Jerker feels more crisp and sensitive, more like a strong whip. 100-150meters depth on average, So what i decided is buying small-medium power rod, with fast action in hope to be more flexible in changing the jigs i use, i bought shimano grappler type slow j pe 2.5 with max 260G jigs, but actually still has pretty good soft tone with 350g or more, pair it with OJ 1500 with PE 1,5, i need to cut as much weight on my tackle as the wind, temp, sunlight and surface current for me is too rough,and worn me fast., still need to understand more on my tackle, their limits and mine, and im still find what is best for my situation here, learning a lot from you mr. Toto and i hope i get the best result. i forget to mention what size of PE line do you suggest? How are them if compare with Poseidon slow jerker? All 3 of us were using the same jigs and weight and same reels and same line. I will limit the jig weight to below 500grams. Thanks again for all the help! Shimano Ocea infinity motive? Thats why you started questioning, yes? This is how we all do at the deep water here. I know all Tenya rod is spinning. Not sure whether they makes the feeling more obvious. Hi Totos, Have you thought about that? Thank Totos for your advice..i will catch it soon. Check out how the HR rod is use to catch a 44kg dog tooth tuna on SPJ. Own Weight : 127gm I just dont understand why they only sell it in Thailand and Indonesia. Im not talking about you, but a lot of times I see anglers, when they make actions, reeling when the line is not tensioned. Arch your back when you do this, as it would make your effort more efficient. The bend on the rod were more and more curve and bend all the way nearer to the rod handle. It makes sense to me. My new setup for the next strong current trip for depth up to 180m would likely be: Rod: Deepliner Logical 60 #8 I dont think my rod can recover that well in my pitching stroke if I go above that. Can be very useful for your free-drifting situation. Ocea Jigger Infinity Motive or Evergreen Posoidon. You are supposed to reel when the line is tensioned to lift up the jig. All the deep squid eging rod is spinning, but because we fish deeper in Okinawa here, the overhead has so many advantages. Hi Alberto. Shimano is finally releasing its flagship model for the slow pitch rod in June 2014. The rod model should be power 4 rod or heavier. Thank you, hello everyone, the boat is at least 3-4 meters high above the sea level. This is my 1st reel for saltwater. Section : One They must have come from somewhere inside. Lifting rods to make actions can be tiring, I understand, but when it comes to the reel, is it about retrieving back to the surface? Thats my above review to share and purely based on my experience. Beat was a private brand, specializing in slow pitch jigging, established in 2011 by Mr. Toshiya Ogai. Thanks. If you have an outboard engine, your boat is likely to turn the back to the wind. Thank you Cris for your help. Hi Toto-san Thank you. I dont know. http://www.anglers-secrets.com/fishyforum/#/20100210/currently-available-slow-jigging-sticks-2761601/, http://www.anglers-secrets.com/ocea-jigger-1500-or-2000/, http://www.anglers-secrets.com/jig-and-rod-match/, http://www.anglers-secrets.com/rods-and-reels/, http://www.anglers-secrets.com/seafloor-control-jigs/, http://www.anglers-secrets.com/reels-for-slow-pitch-jigging/#comment-20544, http://www.anglers-secrets.com/fishyforum/#/20140725/share-the-rod-shipping-4105501/, http://tailwalk.jp/salt/sallty_shape/s_jig/s_jig.html, http://www.anglers-secrets.com/about-japanese-anglers-secrets/, https://www.facebook.com/JapaneseAnglersSecrets/posts/825163594238160, http://www.anglers-secrets.com/what-is-slow-pitch-jigging/#, http://fishing.shimano.co.jp/product/rod/3531, https://www.facebook.com/JapaneseAnglersSecrets/photos/a.402598946494629.99896.378629468891577/1135879886499861/?type=3&theater, https://www.facebook.com/JapaneseAnglersSecrets/posts/1569035683184277, http://www.anglers-secrets.com/slow-pitch-jigging-on-a-free-drifting-boat/, How to make actions in Slow Pitch Jigging. But the shallow waters have never been explored by SPJ, have they? And I also watched a lot of DVDs on slow pitch jigging from Japan (all the instructions on the DVD are in Japanese, LOL) but my passion in slow pitch jigging keeps me going. Good to know. Jig Weight : 80 250gm The reason why youve lost a lot of fish probably is not the rod. OJ1501HG is a very good jigging reel. Hi Nasution06 If you already purchased this setup, dont just question your settings. Good luck. Power 4 or 5. If you are free-drifting, longfall game is not recommended, especially when you are a beginner. I am learning alot from you. Tom B. Tito, Is there a way to get into an accurate feel for slow pitch without spending $600.00 to $1000.00 for equipment. Hi Kogo. Hi tonto..want to as..which one is good rodxzoga bbx(which i have one)or black hole cape cod from USA or should i get slow jerker rod. I hope you find this article informative and helpful to you! Longfall Jerker should do fine, but it doesnt make sense to me to buy it for Tenya. Everything looks so real except the blanks. Recently I notice a slow pitch rod that Im not familiar with, the SKYLLA series by Ocean Freaks, with a wide range that covers from 50g 1000g jigs. The only available choice for me now are But honestly, if you are free-drifting, I dont think its worth the money. I understand that SPJ has come to life through Japanese development but feel like its has now grown to new avenues and new SPJ niches. Hi Toto san, 1. I am using Deepliner and Evergreen Poisedon currently but is also curious about whether Xesta are Class A in your category ? Maybe you can import a reel and a line from Japan for a descent price, but not the rod. If you can do this, power 3 will be sufficient at 50-60m water. They may sell the brand for someone to bring it back up, but for now, no promises. Propagate BLX is designed to be the highest sensitivity for finesse game. Super smooth casting and retrieve and easy to use. But I ended up with a Tai Rubber rod from Daiwa, called Kohga. The fall lever is pretty nice, but I dont know how much effective it is to invite contacts. I encourage you to explore more and more with this setup, keep learning from the field (and this website! Only generally speaking, if the heaviest slow pitch rod doesnt work, use a high-pitch rod. Because you dont learn as much. Only difference is the rod. I feel I have confidence in my setups I have chosen but the question of class A class B and C rods has me worrying whether I will have the sensitivity needed. So I bought the usual color, since I was told performance wise they are the same. Because you are sitting in a fixed position, it would be easier to handle a rod no longer than 6 feet.

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